McKEE: Do you have concerns about the cost to the government of keeping rates elevated for longer in terms of interest rate charges?
POWELL: We have a mandate, and that’s maximum employment and price stability. It’s not something we do to consider the cost to the government of our rate changes. We have to be able to look at the goal variables that Congress has given us, use the tools they have given us to achieve those goals. That’s what we do. We don’t consider the fiscal needs of the federal government. No advanced economy’s central bank does that…If we did do that it wouldn’t be good for our credibility nor the credibility of U.S. fiscal policy. So it’s just not something we take into consideration.
The Fiscal Picture
The accompanying chart shows the projections of U.S. federal spending from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) that were made in January 2025. While the primary deficit was expected to stay steady as a percentage of GDP, net interest expenses were projected to grow steadily over the next 10 years.
Those projections don’t take into account the effects of the just passed OBBB Act, which the CBO estimates will add another $3.4 trillion to the deficit over the next 10 years. I would add, however, that the deficits (and therefore fiscal stimulus) are front-loaded and savings are mainly back-loaded.
Treasury’s Coping Technique
How will the U.S. Treasury and the Fed cope with this giant wall of debt?
The Fed’s Reaction
What about the Fed? The WSJ reported that Fed watcher Tim Duy, chief U.S. economist at SGH Macro Advisors, said, “There’s a feeling that Trump has an influence over every institution sooner or later, and maybe the Fed’s ability to resist it has come to an end.” Trump will be Trump, and the cordial relationship between the President and the Fed Chair lasted only one week.
Several developments last week will have Fed policy implications that will not endear Fed policy makers to President Trump. First, the Fed’s preferred inflation metric, core PCE, rose 0.3% in June, indicating an upward acceleration in tariff-related inflation. Core PCE has exhibited an unwelcome three-month trend of steady monthly increases.
As well, the Trump Administration announced a new tariff regime on July 31 that is scheduled to go into effect August 7 targeted at numerous countries without trade deals. This means the tariff pass-through effects to inflation won’t be realized until late 2025 and early 2026, which cautious Fed decision makers may wait to ascertain their effects if the price increases are a one-time event or persistent before making any changes to monetary policy. This will inevitably delay the timing of the first rate cut until, at a minimum, the December FOMC meeting.
Watch for the debate to begin. Nonfarm payroll employment has been inversely correlated with initial jobless claims. Does the recent improvement in jobless claims foreshadow a strong jobs market ahead?
Whoever Trump appoints as Fed Chair will have a more dovish tilt than Powell in the short run. In the long run, how far will the Fed go to accommodate the fiscal needs of the U.S. Treasury’s financing needs? The Fed bought most of the Treasury’s issuance during the COVID Crisis, but that was a crisis. Will it acquiesce to the administration’s demands in the future, or will it cite its dual mandate as Powell did during the recent press conference?
In other words, financial repression. The price to be paid will be inflation and a falling exchange rate.
Investors can see the effects of financial repression in the price of gold, which acts as a barometer of unexpected inflation and inflation hedge, as measured in USD (blue line) and JPY (red line). The BoJ engaged in a stop-start series of rate cuts during the first decade of Japan’s Lost Decades that began in 1990. It wasn’t until about 2000 that rates reached the zero bound, and gold coincidentally bottomed in both USD and JPY. When gold topped out in USD in 2012–2014 and began a bear market, its price was flat in JPY terms during that period. Gold resumed its bull phase in 2019 in both currencies.
The price of gold is already discounting a scenario of fiscal dominance and financial repression. Gold staged upside relative breakouts against both the S&P 500 and the 60/40 portfolio.
More importantly, growing deficits are becoming a problem not just in the U.S., but also in most advanced economies around the world. Fiscal dominance is coming for virtually all global investors.
Investment Implications
Against this backdrop of fiscal dominance, investors need to re-examine their investment objectives and policies under the new regime. Risk and volatility will rise as fiscal dominance becomes apparent. It may not be enough just to focus on risk-adjusted returns, but on risk-adjusted real returns.
Cam, thanks for this excellent missive. Appreciate.
Correct. Equities will be the biggest winners since behind them are corporations who are run by management doing their jobs for investors. If you really want to be excluding currency factor consider something like, e.g. half EWJ/half DXJ, and half ACWI/half ACWX, on and on. I place my bet on US AI dominance and overweight US individual stocks.